Monday, March 12, 2012

Are Georgetown law school students really this clueless?

You'd think people smart enough to make it into Georgetown Law School could figure this out:
Although Georgetown Law student Sandra Fluke testified to the House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee last month that contraception can cost a law student $3,000 over three years and that some of her fellow students could not afford it, a Target store only 3 miles from the law school currently sells a month's supply of birth control pills for only $9 to people who do not have insurance plans covering contraceptives.
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15 comments:

KyCobb said...

Martin,

You are continuing in the fallacious belief that the issue Ms. Fluke testified about was birth control. Her friend needed a specific prescription to prevent ovarian cysts which also happened to be a contraceptive. If that specific kind of medicine is not the kind for sale for $9.00 a month, it wouldn't do her any good, would it?

Anonymous said...

Don't worry KyCobb! Martin was only being funny. Isn't it obvious?

Lee said...

The Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome Association, Inc., lists the following treatments for the cysts:

Comprehensive Treatments

Insulin Sensitizers: Metformin (Glucophage), Glitazones (Rosiglitazone/Avandia, Pioglitazone/Actos)

Symptomatic Treatments

Anti-Androgens: Spironolactone (Aldactone), Cyproterone acetate, Flutamide (Eulexin), Finasteride (Propecia, Proscar)
Anti-Obesity Drugs: Orlistat (Xenical), Sibutramine (Meridia)
Fertility agents: Clomiphene citrate (Clomid, Serophene), Gonadotropin injections, hCG (human choriuionic goinadotropin), GnRH Lutrepulse
Pregnancy: IVF (in-vitro fertilization)
Steroid hormones: Oral contraceptives (birth control pills), Progesterone (bioidentical), Estrogens, and Corticosteroids
Surgery: Ovarian drilling, Oophorectomy and hysterectomy

Non-Western Treatments

Acupuncture, Chinese medicine


Seems like a lot of treatment options.

Is the use of birth control pills the only one of these treatments Ms. Fluke thinks taxpayers should be forced to pay for?

Or is it just the only one she talked about?

Art said...

So, Lee, you are all for the government telling a doctor how to treat his/her patients?

That's what it sounds like to me.

Or maybe only priests are qualified to make medical decisions? Is that where this is going?

Lee said...

I'm playing doctor? And KyCobb and Sandra Fluke aren't?

KyCobb said...

Lee,

"I'm playing doctor? And KyCobb and Sandra Fluke aren't?"

I'm not the one suggesting alternatives to the treatment prescribed for Ms. Fluke's friend by her Doctor, you are.

"Is the use of birth control pills the only one of these treatments Ms. Fluke thinks taxpayers should be forced to pay for?"

Quit depending on right-wing media for your news; Fox News viewers are actually less well informed than people who don't watch the news at all. Ms. Fluke was not testifying that taxpayers should pay for birth control, but rather that the insurance coverage provided students by Georgetown University should cover contraceptive medicine.

Lee said...

> I'm not the one suggesting alternatives to the treatment prescribed for Ms. Fluke's friend by her Doctor, you are.

My medical credentials are as good as Ms. Flukes'. You don't seem to have a problem with hers.

> Quit depending on right-wing media for your news; Fox News viewers are actually less well informed than people who don't watch the news at all.

I wouldn't blame any real or perceived lack of accuracy in my observations on Fox News or right-wing media. I'm only about halfway paying attention to this, er, issue, just enough to have some fun with it.

But it's awfully hard to feel sorry for a child of privilege like Ms. Fluke, selling apples on the street corner, I'm sure, to pay for her contraception needs while attending one of the most prestigious law schools in the country -- leading valiantly the noble cause of getting someone else to pay for the sex lives of her and her spoiled coterie of future $200 K-salaried law school students.

I think Joe Cocker said it best: "Cry! Cry me a river!"

KyCobb said...

Lee,

"My medical credentials are as good as Ms. Flukes'. You don't seem to have a problem with hers."

Ms. Fluke didn't write her friend's prescription either.

"leading valiantly the noble cause of getting someone else to pay for the sex lives of her and her spoiled coterie"

You just aren't going to budge from the false narrative that this is about taxpayers subsidizing their sex lives, are you? You don't have any excuse for that any more, since I've told you repeatedly that Ms. Fluke's testimony was not about taxpayer subsidies or birth control, but insurance coverage for medicine women needed for reasons other than birth control. If you don't believe me, you can easily find a video or transcript of Ms. Fluke's testimony on the web.

Lee said...

> You just aren't going to budge from the false narrative that this is about taxpayers subsidizing their sex lives, are you?

Well, let's take your complaint seriously for a minute, after I clean up the mess I made by reading your response with my mouth full of coffee.

Is the lady asking that *only* contraception be paid for *if* and *only* *if* someone needs it for medicinal purposes?

If the answer is yes, you have a point.

Is she?

KyCobb said...

Lee,

The point of her testimony was that the insurance company made it so difficult for her friend to get her medicine due to its fear she wanted it for birth control that she couldn't get it covered for her other health care needs either, so insurance companies should insure this medicine like it would any other prescription drug. I know you want to sit on your high horse and judge these women, but that's exactly what caused her friend to lose her ovary. Plus it won't cost you a dime, as I pointed out to you in a previous thread.

Anonymous said...

KyCobb, why do you keep referring to Fluke's "testimony"? That was a Potemkin village "hearing" coordinated by minority Democrats, which is why Fluke was not sworn to testimony. War on women indeed.

KyCobb said...

Anonymous,

" War on women indeed."

Why would a woman need an ovary anyway? We men do just fine without ovaries.

Anonymous said...

Some men do have ovaries. They're called Democrats.

KyCobb said...

Anonymous,

"Some men do have ovaries. They're called Democrats."

That's the way to reach out to women voters. Nothing draws them in like misogyny.

Anonymous said...

KyCobb,I reach out to women all the time and it has nothing to do with voting.